Planet Beyond x Ocean Decade podcast series

Science and solutions for a safe and predicted ocean

Session 3 Mark Heine, Fugro, Kimberly Mathisen, HubObean, and Pierre Bahurel, Mercator Ocean International UNOceanDecade-11April2024-photo-09757


10 May 2024

In this third full-length episode recorded live at the UN Ocean Decade conference in Barcelona we hear from participants in the third plenary session of the event, on Science and Solutions for a Safe and Predicted Ocean.

In her keynote address to the plenary session, Dwikorita Karnawati, head of the Indonesian agency for Meteorology, Climatology, and Geophysics, BMKG, described how the lack of early warning systems left locals unable to react in time to the devastating 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami. That tragedy led the UN to commit to establishing an ‘Early Warning System for All’, or EW4ALL, that would give everyone on the planet the vital minutes needed to escape such disasters.

But there are considerable technological and regulatory challenges to building such a system. In this episode, Karnawati joins Pierre Bahurel and Dawn Wright, to discuss these challenges with Jon Baston-Pitt. We learn how new techniques of ocean mapping are improving the ability to detect threats, and about the data sharing, digital twin modelling and collaboration needed to make everyone safer when disaster strikes.


Jon Baston-Pitt, Fugro


Dwikorita Karnawati, head of the Indonesian agency for Meteorology, Climatology, and Geophysics, BMKG

Pierre Bahurel, Director-General, Mercator Ocean International

Dawn Wright, Chief Scientist, Environmental Systems Research Institute, Inc. (ESRI)

Additional comments

Kimberly Mathisen, CEO, HubOcean

Photo credit IISD/ENB | Mika Schroder

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